It was a great hike. We left trailhead at 3:30pm and arrived at the summit around 7pm. then rally cruised to get tot parking lot just at the edge of night.

We intended this to be as its listed here, a 4 mile round trip of 1600 feet elevation gain. Summit post has it listed as 12 miles round trip and 3400 feet elevation gain to 4420 feet high. We are sure that this guide book is wrong as it was much further than indicated here. Another post said it was 10 miles round trip. Either way its more than we bargained for.

All the same we really enjoyed it. We hit snow about half way up and continued on. We lost the main trail and started a boot trail that was pretty much a straight up climb. The boot trail was not bushwhacking, we could tell a real boot trail was there. This was really fun. When you get to the torn out earth dam take a right instead of a left to do the boot trail. It was snow covered most of the way. We kept wondering where the top was at 1600 feet of climbing, little did we know...

On the way down we found the actual trail and stuck to it. It was much easier of a descent than the boot trail we figured, because the steep snow would have been difficult to manage in the lowering light.

so it’s a good one, but not an good afternoon hike really as its too long, unless you are a tough person. So beware the bad information in this guide as to length and height. I put in a request for an edit. I hope they fix it for the next hikers!