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Spider Meadow and Phelps Basin, Spider Gap, Upper Lyman Lake, Suiattle Pass, Image Lake, Buck Creek, Buck Creek Pass — Sep 15, 2009 — LEG PWR
Multi-night backpack
Features: Fall foliage | Ripe berries
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Duane and I both had this area of the Glacier Peak Wilderness on our "to do" lists. So we...
Duane and I both had this area of the Glacier Peak Wilderness on our "to do" lists. So we chose a loop route and waited for the weather to cooperate.

Our intent was to start at the Phelps Creek trailhead, hike through Spider Meadow, over Spider Gap, down past the Lyman Lakes, west over Cloudy Pass to the Pacific Crest Trail, then south over Buck Creek Pass, following the Buck Creek Trail all the way to Trinity and the Phelps Creek Campground, concluding with a 3 mile road walk back to the Phelps Creek trailhead. We allowed five days, with several optional side trips: the base of Lyman Glacier, the west side of Lyman Lake, Image Lake, Middle Ridge, and Flower Dome.

Due to our personal schedules and the weather, our first day on the trail coincided with the opening day of deer hunting season. We left the trailhead shortly after a young man carrying a rifle on his pack.

At 3.4 miles is a junction to a trail heading up Leroy Creek. A paper sign was posted on a tree a short distance on that trail. I inspected and found that it warned of a wildfire in the Leroy Creek basin. Unfortunately, the sign was not dated.

We continued on another 1.5 to 2 miles to where Spider Meadow opened up. There were numerous campsites here, mostly occupied by hunters. We chatted briefly, then continued on toward our intended camp at Larch Knob, near the base of Spider Glacier.

At the end of the open meadow, the trail started climbing and we started looking for the trail junction that would lead us west up to Larch Knob. At a campsite along the left side of the trail, we saw a path leading west and took it. It broke out of forest in a jumble of rocks below a cliff, and became too faint to follow. This is NOT the trail to Larch Knob. Back on the main trail, we soon found a signed junction and the real side trail, which climbs steeply along a cliff face to Larch Knob, where there are a few gorgeous camps overlooking Spider Meadow.

We discussed our options for getting to Spider Gap. I had trekking poles but no ice axe. Duane had neither. We had read that the route over the Gap was doable without either, but we were exercising caution. We watched others traveling the glacier route, and by morning had decided to try that route.

Even though Spider Glacier was still partially shaded, it was not icy, and made for a nice ascent to Spider Gap. As the top is a small bowl, with Spider Gap straight ahead. The best route however, is to ascend the lower saddle to the right, then follow an obvious path that contours around to the Gap. (See photo.)

Through the Gap, the views opened up to the entire Lyman Lake basin, and beyond to Bonanza Peak. The north side of Spider Gap is loose rock. The trail soon divides, with one route heading north and maintaining elevation. We had read about the existence of a miner's trail and this appeared to be it. We dropped our packs and followed it a short distance with our cameras, to take advantage of the improved views.

Laden with our packs again, we dropped quickly through the rocks and gravel to a chute of ice. It was here that the trekking poles would come in handy. We were able to avoid the ice most of the way down the chute, taking care to avoid ice hidden beneath a slurry of rocks and mud. But at one point, we had to cross a 20-foot slope of ice. We each used a pole for insurance in making this traverse.

Later in the day, we heard from other hikers that the previous day a man had fallen on the ice and had to abort his trip to get stitches in his badly lacerated arm. Don't underestimate the danger of this section.

Once down in the basin, we spent a considerable amount of time exploring along the shore of the large lake and photographing ice caves at the base of Lyman Glacier. The respective sizes and shapes of the lakes in the basin looked nothing like those on my 2004 Green Trails map (Holden - #113). We had both seen photos of Lyman Lakes before our hike, but we couldn't match our memories to the reality. It was clear that this area had changed dramatically in recent years.

Our research had indicated that there was water within a half mile of Cloudy Pass, but we weren't sure where. We talked to some hikers headed the other direction and confirmed that Cloudy Pass had good camps, with water nearby. So we decided to camp there on night two. By the time we dropped from the upper basin to the north side of Lyman Lake, clouds had come in and a wind was creating a chill. While stopped for a snack, we opted to forego a side trip along the west side of the lake to Lyman Falls. Instead we continued up toward Cloudy Pass.

Approximately a half mile before Cloudy Pass, the trail opens up to a large meadow. The pass is visible in the distance. Before long, the trail passes by a creek that had a good amount of water flowing even in mid-September. We did not stop, and regretted it 15 minutes later.

There were nice camps at Cloudy Pass, but we had passed the only water source. It was only 3:30 in the afternoon, but we wanted to take a side trip to Image Lake the next day, and did not know of another camp site between Cloudy Pass and Trail 785.

Ultimately, we decided to take our chances and press on. It started sprinkling the moment we left Cloudy Pass, and we had second thoughts. But when the rain held off, we moved on. We took the Trail 1279 shortcut, with its pointless ups and downs, to a junction with the PCT south of Suiattle Pass. From there we continued to the junction with Trail 785 and the side trip to Image Lake, without seeing any place to camp.

We decided to continue on 785, and quickly came to an old miner's camp. Hikers coming from the other direction assured us that water was only an eighth of a mile west. The site was buggy, but we were tired and willing to tolerate it.

It rained overnight, and everything was damp in the morning. We lightened our packs and set out through wet bushes on our side trip to Image Lake. On the way there, the fog lifted and we got partial views of Glacier Peak. At Image Lake, two deer grazed lazily, unconcerned about our presence. We climbed above the lake. While Duane explored the ridge above, I feasted on blueberries, which were plentiful, plump, and deliciously sweet.

When we returned to camp, we decided to leave the buggy camp for (hopefully) a better one. We had met some hikers who had camped atop Middle Ridge, a one mile side trip to 6400' with good views. It was early afternoon, and the 6400' camp was 6.5 steep miles away, but we decided to go for it. We broke camp in record time and started walking.

We reconnected with the PCT and headed south, dropping down to cross Miner's Creek then starting up an increasingly steep slope. We were aware of the PCT detour from the 2003 flood damage, and were expecting to see a trail closure at the junction 2.8 miles south of Trail 785 junction. We saw no trail at all; the junction had effectively been erased.

We stopped for water along Trail 789, then continued steeply up to Middle Ridge at 6200 feet. Along the way, we feasted on the plump ripe blueberries that lined the trail, just to keep our energy levels up. A black bear on the slope of peak 6655 appeared to be doing the same.

Once on top of Middle Ridge, we turned east on an unmaintained trail. It was badly rutted at first, over a foot deep. It climbed up the ridge, then contoured around the south face, reaching a broad sloping meadow at 6400' in about a mile. We arrived near dusk to found one tent already there. We hastily set up our tent in the fading light.

In the morning we spoke to the other backpacker. She told us that water was available a few hundred yards away, to the northeast. Sure enough, there were at least two streams coming off the scenic slope of peak 8297. Not knowing this, we had brought enough and didn't bother to walk over there.

As we left 6400' camp, the meadow afforded good views of Glacier Peak, with only a few clouds around it.

As we left Middle Ridge heading south again, we finally saw a sign marking the PCT detour route. We dropped down to Small Creek, stopping for water, then climbed up past slopes of autumn colors to a junction with Trail 799 to Flower Dome. We dropped our packs and took the 0.6 mile side trip to Flower Dome. Being mid-September, there were no flowers, but the views to the north and east were nice. Partially obstructed views to Glacier Peak and the Suiattle River were also pretty impressive.

Back on the mail trail, it was a mere 0.3 mile to Buck Creek Pass, more slopes of blueberries providing autumn colors, and our last fantastic views of Glacier Peak. We left the pass at 2:15 p.m., leaving open the question of whether we would press on to the trailhead 9.6 miles away, or spend another evening on the trail.

From Buck Creek Pass, the downhill miles went quickly. We passed obvious avalanche damage in the first mile. Water was plentiful. We did not stop to see if the camp sites in this area were still usable.

Three miles ahead there was a 100-yard wide swath of downed trees. Trail crews had cleared the route through the avalanche, leaving just a very impressive sight.

We passed up a camp at the crossing of the Chiwawa River and continued to the junction with Trail 1550 (Massie Lake Trail). Finally, after 8.2 miles since Buck Creek Pass, we knew for sure where we were, and how much farther it was. That last 1.4 miles seemed like at least 2.

We arrived at the Phelps Creek Campground after 6:00 p.m., with darkness closing in. I left my pack with Duane and hiked the 3 miles to the car in just 36 minutes, capping off a long and exhausting day, and a very memorable loop hike.
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Spider Meadow and Phelps Basin, Upper Lyman Lake, Cloudy Pass to Holden, Suiattle Pass, Buck Creek Pass — Sep 12, 2009 — Cascade Liberation Organization
Multi-night backpack
Features: Fall foliage | Ripe berries
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Phelps Pass - Cloudy Pass - Suiattle Pass - Buck Creek Pass - Trinity Loop 3 days, bivvies high on Cloudy...
Phelps Pass - Cloudy Pass - Suiattle Pass - Buck Creek Pass - Trinity Loop
3 days, bivvies high on Cloudy Pk and below Pass No Pass

WARNING:
HORSE HAZARD on PCT #789 N. of Middle ridge, below treeline. There is a hoof-sized hole 3' deep, on a slope, this one spot only, no warning. I suppose horses look out for such things, but this looks like a real leg-breaker to me. There were some other cavities around roots; I think subsurface water may have undermined the soil. I put a tall thin stick in it with a flag and ask other passersby to mark it more obviously or stick a log in it.

HUNTING SEASON:
High Hunt is Sept. 15-25 2009.
http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/seasons.htm
After what happened last year, I got a day-glo hunter-orange pile cap and some other red/orange clothing. A hunter I met remarked that he appreciated it. I recommend this; it's not just safety but a courtesy to hunters and it reminds you to think about hunting season (bear season starts Aug 1, I think). I also like to flag the dog with fluorescent survey tape, cut into festive ribbons. My dogs look like foxes in deep sedge. Be aware that hunters are setting up camps a couple days before High Buck season opens. I spoke several; they really seemed to have an intimate knowledge of the area.

PCT SUIATTLE RIVER CROSSING:
Spoke two PCT parties who crossed Suiattle River. No bridge, log crossing. No info on how it would be at high water. Said trail was OK north of Red Pass, some blowdown.

WATER:
The land looks very dry but water was not an issue, streams flowing everywhere. I treated no water and I'll post a followup if I get sick. I try to get snowmelt as high as possible.

NO FIRES AT UPPER LYMAN LAKES:
There's a routered sign on the bridge at Lyman Lake, and I wonder how anybody can get as far as Upper Lyman Lake without learning that fires at 6000' are destructive, but a large party of greenhorns was gathering what little wood was there, including a big log, for a toy fire that I could see far into the night from Cloudy Peak. I wonder how many years their fire pit will be there?
Please don't do this. A fire is the biggest impact you can make/leave, and once you make a fire, it's like being indoors. Yeah, it's a cool place, but don't expect the snout of a glacier to be warm. If you must make a fire, you can burn it to ash and destroy most traces. End of rant. Sorry.

TRAIL CONDITIONS:
Ripe blueberries are an obstacle to progress.

MEMO:
I asked a horseman; he said it's best to move to the downslope side when you meet horses on a slope, just talk to them so they know you're there. My dog doesn't bark but I'd be concerned about spooking a horse on a slope.

NOTE:
I hate this new website and can't get it to work. This route DOES NOT GO OVER PASS NO PASS. I can't get that out of the trails list.
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DAY 1 Sat 9/12
4:15 LV Seattle
7:30 hiking up Phelps Ck Rd, was offered a ride immediately (thanks Dilleys).
      Ice axe unnecessary on what's left of Spider Glacier. Soft snow, warm sunny day.
      4-star campsite at snout of Spider Glacier overlooking Phelps Basin.
3:30 LV Phelps Pass
      Carried water from Lyman Lake to Cloudy Pass, but plenty good water flowing from meadows on S side of Cloudy Pk.
      Bivvied high on SW rib of Cloudy, 1-person sand patch, no tent sites above pass. 5-star campsite at Cloudy Pass. Magnificent view from here; if you go to Cloudy Pass, make time to gently stroll high onto Cloudy Pk.

Day 2 Sun 9/13
      Ascended Cloudy Pk. Follow ridge as high as possible, then onto ledges on Rt (E). Some Class 3 scrambling; final summit block is Class 3-4, not corgi-friendly, Gwynnie's pride was hurt.
11:00 LV Cloudy bivouac.
12:40 LV Suiattle Pass.
2:15 LV Miners' Ck.
      HORSES, watch for hoof hole below treeline!
4:00 Middle Ridge. My old map shows Middle Ridge Tr going WNW down the ridge, and it looked like a trail went higher as well.
5:55 Buck Creek Pass.
      Spoke hunters who said Massie Lk High Route has serious avalanche debris, big logpiles, near its SE end. Massive avalanches went all the way to the valley bottom and piles massive logs on Buck Creek Trail. You'll be impressed by the avalanches and the trail crews.
      Bivvied in basin below Pass No Pass near several couple hunter parties setting-up for High Hunt, which opened Tuesday 9/15/09, after I'd be gone. Glad I'd bought the flashy day-glo hat. Water and snow still in the basin.

Day 3 Mon. 9/14
Stars went out one by one. Awoke in fog.
10:15 Started SW scramble route on Fortress in whiteout, hesitant and slow. In the fog, I chose the worst possible way. Upper part would be much more pleasant in early season with more snow; it's rocky, loose, chossy in places. No place for a dog but there were no other climbers present. Rockfall is a real issue. We got 100' above the overcast, joy. Everything to the west a sea of clouds. Magnificent summit view.
1:50 Fortress summit.
2:20 Left summit.
4:50 Pass No Pass sheep trails up Helmet Butte, fine bivvy site below pass, don't mess it up.
5:35 LV Pas No Pass basin
6:00 on Buck Ck Trail
      Massive avalanche logpiles opposite Mt. Berge, impassable but for the trail crews.
9:45 Trinity
Just before Trinity, in a 5' wide 5" deep stream, two salmon were hanging in the current. I could've caught them bare-handed, but they'd come a long way.

Car keys were just where I'd left them, in the ignition of my unlocked car.

Just walking the dog.


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Buck Creek Pass, Buck Creek, Suiattle Pass, Railroad Creek, Upper Lyman Lake, Spider Meadows — Aug 30, 2008 — Scott&Lucy
Multi-night backpack
Features: Wildflowers blooming | Fall foliage | Ripe berries
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We wanted to make the best of the Labor Day weekend, so we set off at 5:30am from north Seattle....
We wanted to make the best of the Labor Day weekend, so we set off at 5:30am from north Seattle. Got to Trinity around 8am after the most disgusting breakfast ever at the Sultan McDonalds. The 30 minutes spent eating a real breakfast would have been worth it both in the taste & energy we would have got.

It was sunny & fairly windy at Trinity but we soon got our packs on & headed up the trail. Buck Creek trail is easy & flat for the first 6 miles or so. The PCT detour has been good to this trail--almost too good in some parts; it looked like it had been clearcut. About 5mi in we felt raindrops on us. Odd--it was sunny out! As we proceeded we saw a bank of fog/low cloud hugging the ridge top--the wind was blowing the drops our way. It gradually got colder and when we hit the real precipitation it was snow pellets; nice because we didn't get wet! The trail gets steeper--and more scenic once it starts climbing away from the river--about 6mi in.

We made Buck Creek Pass about 3:30 (yes we were taking our time--that McD's breakfast). Glacier Peak was shrouded in mist--just peeking through in parts. No one there but lots of nice campsites in the beautiful meadows. We decided to press on to a lower elevation so we didn't freeze that night.

A steep & quick hour down found us at Small Creek where we decided to spend the night. Chilly & misty but we were warm with out red beans & rice--and some whisky.

The next morning dawned misty & chilly. We left (still in our long johns) at 10:15. The long johns came off after about 15 minutes up the hillside. Not too steep, but enough to warm us up. 11:15 found us at Middle Ridge, pretty in the mist, but no views. Then a walk down & through the forest to the "real" PCT at 12:30.

The trail up to Suiattle Pass was fairly easy in improving conditions through lovely huckleberry meadows. Took the hikers trail (not for the faint of heart) to Cloudy Pass. We sheltered from a heavy snowstorm about 300' below the pass & then went on to the blue sky we could see at the other side of the pass (4pm).

The meadows on the SE side of Cloudy Pass are beautiful, if past their prime. A pity the ridges were all shrouded in fog. Lower Lyman lake was windy & cloudy so we made for the Upper Lyman Basin: what an incredible place.

We pulled in to an awesome campsite completely sheltered from the wind somewhere around 5.30. The weather may not have been the best this weekend (though it was completely fine for us), but it sure made less hardy souls (and bugs) stay away. It was wonderful to have the whole Upper Lyman Basin just to ourselves.

Frost on the tent in the morning. We stayed in camp (watching a bear bound across the meadows) till about 11:15 so the snow would have a chance to soften on our paths up & down Spider Gap.

The trail up the gap isn't hard to find if you keep a lookout for the cairns. The snowfield was definitely the way to go. Made the top around 12:30 and glissaded (ice axe not needed) down the Spider "glacier" to Larch Knob. Boy the trail from there down to Spider Meadow is steep!

A leisurely lunch at the big boulder by Phelps Creek at 1:30. We left the lower meadow at 3pm & got back to the trailhead at 4.30. What a shock! Where were the hoards of people leaving Spider Meadow who were supposed to pick up a hitchhiker & take me back to the car? We started down the road & after about 15 minutes were picked up by a lovely lady driving a red jeep. If you read this, thanks & I hope your trip to the Enchantments was wonderful!

All in all a great hike, probably improved by the iffy weather keeping the crowds away.

One final note: the way to do this loop is clockwise; the steeps are all downhill that way, Spider Glacier is a glacier no longer, and that 8mi out Buck Creek trail would be boring & long at the end. Okay, if you don't have a modicum of experience of snowfields maybe do it counter-clockwise, but don't be put off by the warnings that the glacier is dangerous. It isn't--at least not in late summer.
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Phelps Creek #1511,Spider Gap #1256.2,Cloudy Pass #1256,Image Lake #785,Buck Creek #789,Buck Creek #1513,Suiattle Pass #1279 — Aug 15, 2008 — jletts
Day hike
Issues: Bugs
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Completed this loop between 8/15 and 8/19. I am not including pictures as there are many excellent recent trip reports...

Completed this loop between 8/15 and 8/19. I am not including pictures as there are many excellent recent trip reports with tons of detail and pictures (here and at nwhikers.net). In fact I was surprised by the number of people we saw in the backcountry, many on the same loop. The trip started out hot Friday and Saturday. Camped just below Spider Gap Saturday night. The weather changed and clouds rolled in for Sunday making perfect hiking weather. Lots of snow in the gap on both sides, but temps were warm and it was no problem with only trekking poles. The trail from the gap down to Upper Lyman Lakes is very rough in places with loose talus and false footholds. Caution! Tons of bugs in the meadows above Lyman Lake so we cruised past and up to Cloudy Pass. Spectacular scenery from Cloudy, now my favorite alpine meadow ever. The trail to Image was in good shape and we saw 2 bears in the Image Lake area. Myself and my hiking partner were the only people camped at Image Lake on Sunday night, the only solitude of the trip. Amazing lightning show illuminated Glacier Peak all night and held back the rain. Bugs were bad. Monday started wet and stayed that way all day. We hiked up to the Miners Ridge lookout and spoke with the ranger stationed there. He mentioned some rough weather moving in by Tuesday night with one inch of rain expected. We had originally planned on descending from this point to the Suiattle and trying to ford at some point to get up on the flanks of Glacier Peak on the old PCT. But the incoming weather, a potentially impossible ford, and the fact that the PCT hasn't been cleared in years convinced us to push on in the high country. The trail to Buck Creek Pass was cloudy with only a few views here and there of the volcano. Several groups were camped at the pass. We found a good sheltered spot to set up our tarps and start drying out. Tuesday morning was cold and foggy. We waited a few hours for the fog to lift but the weather seemed to deteriorate every hour. Headed back to the car at Trinity in order to avoid a complete soaking of our already wet gear. The trail back to Trinity from the pass was long and very boring. I can't imagine hiking it up to the pass. The Phelps Creek Trail is much more scenic I'd say, so it's best to do the loop counterclockwise and use the Buck Creek trail as the long, tired slog out. A WTA crew was working hard on the trail about half way down, Thanks!! Met a couple of cool people on the trail and gave one a ride back to his truck and the other and his 2 dogs a ride to Highway 2. My friend and I decided to extend the trip another day and head into Leavenworth for some hearty food and beers. We car camped on Icicle Creek Tuesday night with the intention of drying out and cleaning our gear. That night turned out to be the wettest, and by morning we were ready to head for home. If it rained that hard all night in Leavenworth I can't imagine what it must have been like up in the mountains. An excellent trip which opened my eyes to the possibilities in Glacier Peak Wilderness. I've already started planning my next trip in the area!

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Upper Lyman Lake #1256.2,Spider Meadows #1511 — Jul 22, 2005 — SeaNat
Day hike
Issues: Bugs
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My wife and decided to take her brother and his new fiance on a nice leisureley backpacking trip as...

My wife and decided to take her brother and his new fiance on a nice leisureley backpacking trip as neither of them had ever been before. They are also both from Saskatchewan which is flatter than a pancake so we thought we would go easy on them for their first time out. Spider Meadows was the first place to come to mind as it's a spectacular place and is fairly easy to get to.

So taking three days we started out on Friday morning which was pouring down rain at the TH but the weather people said it would quit by afternoon and be nice for the rest of the weekend. For the first time in ten years I decided to believe them and we headed out under the canopy of forest for the first five miles. It was wet but not bad. The temps were mild, we all had gortex on and we were getting a little warm but semi-dry. By the time we made the meadow it had stopped raining. Evrybody was in good spirits and wanted to go farther so we pushed through the meadow. None of the creek crossings were hard to cross but there was plenty of water for Ellie the dog. I pointed to the top of the valley headwall and told them that was our camp for the night. They cringed a little but agreed to go. The meadow was a nice place but it doesn't match the view from up there. The trail to the end of the valley is in good shape. The flowers were mostly Paintbrush (red and white), Cow Parsnip, Columbine, and some purple daisy type. We took a good lunch braek at the ""Y"" in the trail but didn't stay long as the bugs were starting to 'bug' us. The trail up to the top was pretty rocky and steep but not too long. It took us about an hour to make the foot of the glacier/snowfield. My favorite campspot is to the right of there and on top of the knoll over looking the valley. It has about a 300 degree view of everything. Our guest forgot all about the grueling last mile as soon as they saw the view. We set up camp and by the time we were done the sky was starting to break up. The temps at night were mild and when we got up the nect morning the sky was as blue as it gets.

I told them it was a short hike to the summit of Spider Gap and the view was even more impressive so we decided to go for it. they were'nt too beat up and wanted more. SO we packed up and headed up the snow field. Some of the cravsses are opeing up and are quit deep. We picked our way around them and up to the Gap. The weather and the view were awesome. The color of upper Lyman was gem like. We broke for lunch there. Then the easy descent on the snow field towards the lake. AFter that the prairie folk thought we were trying to kill them. I forgot how brutal the scree slope to the lake can be.

I have a new found hatred for people who build cairns willy nilly with no prupose other than to show off their artistic BS.

I have a new found love for hiking poles!

Finally make the main trail around the lake. We make ot all the way to lower Lyman looking for a spot to camp. Feet tired we had a snack and waded into the ice cold lake but man, it felt good! The sites there are tucked back into the trees and the bugs were bad mostly flies with a mosquito thrown in for good measure. Thinking we will be hiking the whole distance tomorrow we decided there was a decent camp sopt back up at upper Lyman. By the time we got back there a couple of guys had set up camp at the spot we were thinking. But some friends of mine told us about a great spto just at the top of the big falls that flow from the upper to the lowere lake so after further investigation we found it. Nice spot close to the creek for water, the falls for sound effect, the Lyman glacier for view. Perfect! The bugs were almost non-existant. Perfect! Had a nice night. By the way I have to give kudos to MountainHouse ProPack foods! Didn't have one bad meal.

The next moring we got up early before the sun hit our camp. It was a little chilly but hot coffee cured what ailed us. Had breakfast, packed up everything and on the trail again. I was a little concerned about getting our guests back up to the Gap because they were getting a little trail worn. Sore ankles and knees, even the dog was walking gingerly. But we made it in good time, especially onvce we hit the snow field we were having a snack at the gap in two hours. It only took us a half our to descend the glacier on the other side and we were back in the lowere meadow in four. Stopped to cool our feet and have lunch there but the flies were SO bad we didn't stop for long. I'm not sure why but the trail from the meadow back to the car always seems like the longest to me. But we finally made, dsore but happy guess and all. I actually think we converted these two to backpackers. They were asking about other placs to go next summer. Well beers and dinner never tasted better at Gustavs before the drive home. All in all a great trip!

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Upper Lyman Lake (#1256.2)
Central Cascades
3.75 out of 5
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