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This long but easy valley romp follows boisterous Phelps Creek to a mile-long broad flower-bursting meadow and a giant cirque beneath a formidable wall of towering peaks. But don't expect solitude, for Spider Meadow crawls with backpackers-brigades of them! The valley is large enough to disperse in, though, and Phelps Basin offers a quiet retreat from the meadow's loungers and shutterbugs and their tent cities.

The number of vehicles at the trailhead should give you a good indication of the popularity of this hike. Spider Meadow is one of the busiest places within the Glacier Peak Wilderness.

Head down the Phelps Creek Trail, an old road reverting nicely to trail. In 0.25 mile, after hopping across a refreshing creek, come to the junction with the Carne Mountain Trail. Continue straight, traversing pleasant forest and crossing several side creeks, entering the Glacier Peak Wilderness at 2.5 miles.

Continuing along Phelps Creek, the delightful trail marches gently up the valley. Pass through groves of big Engelmann spruce and by tailings of old mines. The area is littered with old mines, and a few doughty prospectors still work claims in the vicinity. At 3.4 miles cross Leroy Creek, which may be tricky in periods of high runoff. On the north side of the creek you may notice a trail taking off right. This is the start of the Leroy High Route, a challenging alpine route through the Entiat Mountains.

About a mile beyond Leroy, the trail actually takes a noticeable ascent, but still quite gentle, mind you. At just over 5 miles, break out from the trees to the edge of Spider Meadow (elev. 4750 ft). Now behold the beauty of an open U-shaped valley carpeted in brilliant wildflowers. Look up to 7646-foot Red Mountain, its rusty summit contrasting nicely with its necklace of snow patches. You can call it quits here, finding a nice place to lounge by Phelps Creek, or continue farther to more dramatic scenery.

The trail carries on, blazing right up the middle of the sprawling meadows. At 5.5 miles it crosses a side creek and then climbs through a cluster of firs and enters an upper meadow. Stare up at cascading creeks coming down off of Red Mountain and Phelps Ridge. Now hop across Phelps Creek, after which the trail steepens and reenters forest. At just over 6 miles reach a signed junction. The trail left climbs to Spider Gap en route to the Lyman Lakes-it's where all of the backpackers are heading.

Hang a right on the path less taken, and in less than 0.5 mile reach the head of the wide-open cirque called Phelps Basin (elev. 5400 ft). It's quite a dramatic spot, hemmed in by the vertical walls of 8421-foot Dumbell Mountain. Melting snowfields give birth to Phelps Creek here, where it tumbles through vibrant clusters of violet monkey flowers. Notice that you have the whole basin to your-self. The marmots don't count.
Driving Directions:

From Everett head east on US 2 for 85 miles to Coles Corner. (From Leaven-worth travel west on US 2 for 15 miles.) Turn left onto State Route 207 (signed for Lake Wenatchee) and proceed 4.2 miles to a Y intersection after crossing the Wenatchee River. Bear right onto the Chiwawa Loop Road, and after 1.3 miles turn left onto the Chiwawa River Road (Forest Road 62). Proceed for 22 miles (the pavement ends at 10.8 miles) to a junction. Bear right onto FR 6211 and proceed for 2.3 very rough miles to the trailhead at the road's end (elev. 3500 ft).

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Spider Meadow and Phelps Basin, Phelps Creek, Upper Lyman Lake, Lyman Lakes, Cloudy Pass to Holden, Image Lake, Pacific Crest Trail (PCT) Section K - Stevens Pass - East to Rainy Pass, High Pass, Spider Gap - Buck Creek Pass Loop — Sep 06, 2011 — el tigre
Multi-night backpack
Features: Wildflowers blooming | Ripe berries
Issues: Blowdowns | Snow on trail | Bugs
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Day 1: Phelps Cr TH - Lyman Lake via Spider Gap ~ 12 miles 3:30 wake up in Longview, 5 or so hour...
Day 1: Phelps Cr TH - Lyman Lake via Spider Gap ~ 12 miles

3:30 wake up in Longview, 5 or so hour drive to the Phelps Cr TH, on the trail by 9:30 am. Road to Trinity is fairly good til the last 2 miles, road from Trinity to Phelps Cr is less good but still passable with a regular car. You can do the road walk either at the beginning or end of your hike. If at all possible, do it first. I did it last, and it is not fun!

Phelps Cr Trail is gorgeous, lightly traveled, excellent tread, tons of water available, no bugs, no snow. Beautiful big trees, peekaboo views through the forest of nearby peaks.

When you hit Spider Meadow you start getting views of surrounding peaks. About midway through the meadow there is a big pile of avalanche snow. I got turned around here, thinking I had already passed Phelps Creek and started looking for the trail to Spider Gap. Don't make my mistake, I wasted maybe an hour of time on the snow, in avalanche fall, bushwacking, etc, which took a physical and mental toll later. For whatever reason I thought there was no official trail from Spider Meadow up to Spider Gap, but that is not true. Just stay on the main trail, eventually you'll hit a signed trail junction at the bottom of the headwall, and you'll turn up slope toward the Gap.

The ascent from the meadow to the Spider Snowfield is steep and hot. Bring lots of water. The snowfield is soft and safe on a warm day like the one I did. Don't need any special equipment but poles might make it easier. It's apparently only a mile but it feels longer.

Spider Gap is spectacular, views for miles, and a good place for lunch. You'll have to swat a few deerflies, though, precursor of things to come.

Heading down now onto the Lyman Glacier is definitely steeper. With warm, soft snow a set of poles is all you'll need, but an axe or maybe crampons would make me feel safer. There's a thread at NWHikers.net with excellent info about how to find your way down the snow and onto a trail. Don't go right too soon are you end up cliffed at an overlook. But don't go right too late (like I did) or you miss the main trail and end up having to scramble down scree for hundreds of feet, which is tiring.

Once you find the trail, it's an easy up and down to Lyman Lake, which is beautiful. Camping sites are pretty mosquito-ey, but right at the lake there were hardly any flies or skeeters and it's got lots of warm, shallow areas perfect for a hot day. Gorgeous views!

There were some camping spots up higher on the ridge between upper and lower Lyman Lakes, which were scenic, breezy, and lonely, but you would have had to have gotten your water from upper Lyman lake or earlier, as there is no water right at those sites. Worth it though, for those who plan ahead.

Day 2: Lyman Lake - Cloudy Pass - Image Lake - Miner's Creek ~ 13 mi

On trail about 8 am. Easy jaunt up to Cloudy Pass with great views but again, lots of bugs. Definitely bring a headnet and spray. I was going to go with just a tarp since we had such great weather, but in the end I brought my 16 oz homemade bug tent too, which I was very grateful for - more for flies than mosquitoes.

The hiker shortcut to Suiattle Pass is snow-free, no trouble, but kind of steep and rocky.

Trail to Image Lake has a few blowdowns, nothing big. There are signs of active bears en route to Image Lake with several stripped trees and tons of scat near the miner's cabin ruins.

Image Lake itself was infested with horseflies. The campsites appear to be located over a ridge from the lake itself with great views of Glacier Peak but none of the Lake. I didn't camp here, instead moving on to Miner's Creek.

Hint: Miner's Creek bridge goes right over a 4 or 5 foot deep pool of water in the creek, exactly right for jumping in to neck depth for a great rinse off and cool off on a hot and dusty day. Water is cold but tolerable.

There aren't a lot of good campsites at Miner's Creek - I only saw one good one. I made do with a so-so spot and I didn't see any others sites.

Day 3: Miner's Creek - Middle Ridge/Sheep Driveway - Buck Creek Pass - High Pass Lookout ~ 12 mi

On the trail at 8 am. From Miner's Creek you're up to Middle Ridge through forest then parkland, again lots of flies and mosquitoes. There is an unmaintained but well-known trail there that you can go up about a mile and get big views of Glacier Peak et al. Worth it. Then down to Small Creek, a beautiful stream, then back up to Buck Creek Pass. This is around 6 mi, pretty easy, I was there before 11 am.

Note the official Buck Creek Pass campsites are down a hundred or two hundred feet in elevation next to a little stream. They have better access to toilets and water, but much inferior views, also cooler at night and less breezy, bad for bugs. Try to get the unofficial site visible from the main trail if you can, the one you pass as you first head down toward the official camping area.

After setting up camp at the unofficial campsite just off the main trail - the one still high enough to see sunset and sunrise on Glacier Peak - I set off for a dayhike to the unnamed pass just short of High Pass, described in Doug Lorain's "Backpacking Washington." It's an easy first couple miles, rounding Liberty Cap with ever-better views of Glacier Peak, etc. After a long 2 miles you hit an unnamed saddle and round the north-facing side of a ridge. Then you start to hit snowfields - about half a dozen in all. The first is too steep to safely pass. You have to scramble briefly down and around, which isn't too bad. The next few are safe to pass, with proper precautions. To be safest you should have an ax. I didn't. I had in-step crampons, but it was warm and the snow was soft. In retrospect I was probably taking a risk. The final snowfield which is literally immediately before the final destination is not passable. However you can scramble sort of back and up and reach the ridgeline, which you can then traverse briefly to the pass for the best views. Whoa!!! Icy Triad Lake, mostly frozen over, tons of snow and ice, glaciers, peaks, Glacier peak visible to the right, etc. This is an awesome and worthwhile short day hike if you can do it safely! Thunderheads were starting to build at 1:30 so I headed quickly back, just in time to cover my bug tent with my tarp as the first (and last) raindrops fell. Note there is no water once you start up Liberty Cap, bring what you need from Buck Creek Pass.

Day 4 - Buck Creek Pass - Trinity - Phelps Cr ~ 12 mi (plus 1 mi in a vehicle)

7:30 am start. Long, long, steady downhill with spectacular views of Buck Creek Valley and many snowy, icy peaks and slopes. The undulating portion of the valley can be wet with dew, swarming with flies, and hot and humid as there are a few avalanche slopes that are exposed. There are some ripe huckleberries here, but the flies keep you from hanging around too much. Saw some inbound hunters on the way down.

Once you get to the road, it's a long 3 miles, maybe 3.25 miles from Trinity parking lot to Phelps Creek TH. As mentioned, try to do the road walk on entry rather than exit. I found this a very painful and not fun part of the hike, would have been better at the beginning. However, you probably need 5 days to do it that way (staying the first night in Spider Meadow after a 10 mile hike in including the road walk), otherwise you end up starting off with a 15 mile plus day, and the last 3-4 miles are descending the Lyman Glacier in late afternoon while you're probably pretty bushed, which doesn't sound that safe to me.

Great hike, would be nicer in 5 days than 4 but rarely is the hiking steep and the trails are all well-graded and easy to travel (obviously excepting the Spider snowfield and Lyman Glacier).

Really spectacular scenery. Maybe flies and skeeters will be doing out shortly with cooler weather coming this week. Huckleberries just coming on. One of the most scenic backpacks I've done! I didn't mention all the flowers, just tons of lupine and many other common Cascade flowers on the parks of Buck Creek Pass, Lady Pass, Cloudy Pass, etc.

Thanks to posters at NWHikers.net for their tips on traversing the snowfields at Spider Gap!
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Spider Meadow and Phelps Basin — Sep 03, 2011 — SunSeekers
Multi-night backpack
Features: Wildflowers blooming
Issues: Snow on trail | Bugs
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Just like the report from a week or so ago, the trails are in great shape, and the route is easy. We...
Just like the report from a week or so ago, the trails are in great shape, and the route is easy. We made it to the beginning of Spider Meadow in just a couple of hours (approx. 5.5 miles), and then meandered up the meadow enjoying the sunshine and the wildflowers which were blooming like crazy, esp. purple asters, sitka valerian and cow parsnip, as well as indian paintbrush and columbine. A little way-finding to get across the snow debris from an avalanche earlier this year, and we picked up the trail again and wound our way up to the trail junction for Spider Gap. We turned right instead, and a half mile later we were at the foot of Phelps Basin. A couple of other parties had their tents set up in the lower part of the basin, but we'd heard we could go up to the end of the basin and camp high up on the heather at about 6000'. We made a perfect camp, and didn't see another soul for 36 hours!

Sunday was spent working our way up to the ridge above the Basin, up by Dumbbell Mt. itself. The scrambling was easy, and there were several snow fields to cross but soft enough for just hiking boots. The views from the ridge were spectacular, and we couldn't have had a better day - sunshine, breeze to keep the bugs at bay, warm temps but lots of water and snow to cool us off. Even had a cocktail on snow up high to celebrate the best of our annual Labor Day backpacks!

Sunday night was even warmer than Saturday, with loads of stars shining down on our solitary tent. Despite the many cars at the trailhead, we found some peace and quiet and views galore! Couple of mountain goats and marmots were seen, and only 1 plane the entire time we were in the basin!
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Spider Meadow and Phelps Basin — Aug 30, 2011 — Shadowdad
Day hike
Features: Wildflowers blooming
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Spider Meadow and Phelps Basin absolutely delivered today. Great views, good wildflowers, nice temp...
Spider Meadow and Phelps Basin absolutely delivered today. Great views, good wildflowers, nice temps and not too many bugs. Except for having my old iphone depart somewhere in the brush along the trail up to Phelps Basin this was a perfect day (black 3gs in a black holster if you find it please leave a comment)

Trail is in great shape. Water crossing are all manageable (poles help), although running much higher then late August normal. There is a big patch of avalanche debris that covers the upper portion of the valley, easy to cross and fun to see so late in the season.

The extra 1.5 miles from the beginning of Spider Meadow up to Phelps Basin is absolutely worth it. Phelps Basin is spectacular.






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Spider Meadow and Phelps Basin, Spider Gap, Upper Lyman Lake, Lyman Lakes, Holden to Hart Lake — Aug 12, 2011 — apspringborn
Multi-night backpack
Features: Wildflowers blooming
Issues: Snow on trail | Bugs
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My buddy Paul and I planned a few months ago to make the Spider Meadow to Holden through hike togeth...
My buddy Paul and I planned a few months ago to make the Spider Meadow to Holden through hike together. He was going to meet up with friends spending the week there and I was looking forward to returning to one of my favorite places in the North Cascades. Given the late summer we had been watching careful reports coming out of area to determine if the snow was going to melt off enough to make it possible for us to make the trip. Finally about a week ago the WTA reports and some reports Paul got directly from Holden village confirmed the route looked good (Our backup plan to hike the Lakeshore trail would go back on "the list").

We started out at the Spider Meadow Trail Head on Friday Morning around 11am. I know Spider Meadow is popular, but 10 parties had already signed in before us on that day! The bugs heading up were definitely trying to make up lost time with the short summer. We hit the meadow after a few hours and took a site at the south end. Wild flowers were going strong. Most of the snow was melted out save for a big avalanche flow at the north end of the meadow. Given its depth I'm guessing it probably will not melt out this summer. Some parties arriving late on Friday definitely were scouting around for a while to find a site...

Saturday morning we started out for our big adventure, going from the meadow, over the gap to Lyman and down to Hart. After crossing the avalanche flow, we found the trail and started the ascent to the gap. There were a few trees down and patches of snow on the trail beyond the avalanche flow but nothing too challenging to get over. The views on the way to the gap were as always more spectacular the higher we climbed. The trail to the edge of Spider Glacier/err snowfield was clear and good hiking. It was here when most of the day hikers caught us. There must have been at least 12+ people in 3-4 parties heading up.

At the Glacier edge most folks choose to take the more direct route up directly up the snow. We choose to take the footpaths on the east shoulder and were rewarded with some spectacular views of Phelps Basin and Spider Meadow though we did have to cross multiple patches of snow on the ascent. To this point we had only used hiking poles for additional traction/support. The weather was warm and the snow soft so on the ascent I felt pretty comfortable/had enough traction without additional support. At the Gap we decided it was time for additional traction. I saw other folks with everything from full crampons to mini spikes. I brought my yaktrax. On the ascent to the upper Lyman pools I had both yaktrak pop off and didn't even notice as the snow was soft my feet sunk in an inch or two. We found one of them, but sadly someone else is going to end up hauling out the other one (apologies). Some yahoos were using thick plastic as makeshift toboggan and flying down the hill toward Lyman Glacier. I saw some other folks on the Glacier itself without ropes. Not sure if there is much in way of deep crevasses left in the glacier, but those were risks I wasn't interested in taking. For us on a warm day additional traction on the snowfield wasn't needed, but on a colder day where the snow freezes up, traction support would be a must as the trip down to Lyman is moderately steep in places. Also the rock fall danger over the entire snowfield descending down from the Gap to Lyman should not be under estimated. There were plenty of smaller rocks(baseball size and smaller) half buried/sticking out of the snow. I saw at least one large rock fall across the way on the western side of the basin as we descended. I didn't see anyone wearing helmets in these areas. We moved relatively quickly down and out of the danger zone, but I wouldn't recommend staying in the snowfields for long stretches to other folks. Ok enough with the risk talk. The views down into Lyman are spectacular with the mountains, ponds and icebergs. Unfortunately there was a boat the next day to catch down in Lucerne or otherwise we would have stayed the night in the Lyman area. As it was we moved on and down to Hart Lake. The trail down that way is pretty overgrown with annuals, especially the switch back section leading down from Lyman to Hart, but otherwise well maintained. We met a wedding party heading up to Lyman from Holden on Sunday morning. One way that was 9 miles so quite a day hike. After cleaning up at Holden, the bus took me down to Lucerne and out. A lovely long weekend getaway.

Oh, blueberries, we saw plenty of them, but still several weeks away from being edible. Those hiking in Early September will probably be able to come back with proper purple hands...
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Spider Meadow and Phelps Basin — Aug 04, 2011 — o'rogers
Multi-night backpack
Features: Wildflowers blooming
Issues: Snow on trail | Bugs
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With clear skies forecast, the three of us took off for a 3-day backpack, leaving trailhead around 1...
With clear skies forecast, the three of us took off for a 3-day backpack, leaving trailhead around 11:30 Thursday morning. The hike to the meadows is a fairly gentle 5 miles, nice beaten path, lots of room for the dog to roam freely by our side. Wildflowers and understory plants are blooming along the trail. There are patches of snow reaching the meadow but nothing to write home about.

The meadow is spectacular! Although some flowers are blooming, the real show is probably 1-2 weeks away. Marmots were letting their presence be heard. The first large snowfield is at the far end of the meadow - if you walk directly across it, you'll find the trail again. We then found a nice secluded campsite with good creek access. There are several campsites at the beginning of the meadow - most appeared melted out. Only one other (large) group was camped in the meadow.

Next day packed up camp and headed out towards Phelps Basin. We missed the fork however, and ended up on the Spider Gap route. We decided to keep going since we were planning on day-hiking up there anyway. After a fierce climb, we reached the base of the Spider Glacier and napped, lunched, and lounged on a large rock formation above the snow. We then grabbed a campsite at the base of the glacier - there are about 3-4 small tent sites and what a magnificent view!

We then took of for a hike up the glacier with day packs. The dog thought the snow climb was completely awesome, and it is, it's also steep and slick so stay high along the walls and avoid edges. You'll reach one false summit but don't give up because the view over the Gap into the Lyman Lakes basin is so worth it. You can slide and glissade most of the way back down the glacier in a fraction of time it takes to climb up.

We spent the last night alone on our high perch above the valley. The wind howled and rocked the tent from about 7pm-5am. Although we had the rainfly on for protection, the wind showered us with dust/sand flying in through the tent's mesh walls. Dog of course slept through the whole ordeal. Headed out early in the morning back down the trail and were back at our truck about noon. Couldn't wait to hit up the 59er Diner for a milkshake!

Some other notes:
We originally wanted to descend to the Lyman Lakes and make it a 4-day trip but did not have crampons or an ice axe and in the end were glad we made that decision. We passed a father and young daughter who had come over from that side and highly recommended having that equipment.

We talked with 2 other groups who also missed the turn-off for Phelps Basin. On our descent, we couldn't believe we missed it - it's a fairly large sign sitting there face forward in the middle of the snow! Within a few weeks that snow will melt and the sign can probably be re-erected.

Biting flies on the way up are a major pain - their bite really pinches. All in all the mosquitoes and flies are not swarming, but they are out and I am still feeling the itch. Many fewer bugs at the higher elevations.

Took off our boots to cross only two creek/streams. First one was early in the hike, and is really tiny. Second is Leroy Creek, which is quite beautiful but still moving fairly quickly with water about mid-calf.
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Phelps Basin. Photo by Bev.
Location
Spider Meadows (#1511)
Central Cascades -- Stevens Pass - East
Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest, Wenatchee River Ranger District, Leavenworth
Statistics
Roundtrip 13.0 miles
Elevation Gain 1900 ft
Highest Point 5400 ft
Features
Old growth
Wildflowers/Meadows
Mountain views
Wildlife
Established campsites
User info
Northwest Forest Pass required
Guidebooks & Maps
Green Trails Holden No. 113

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