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Quick weekday jaunt to Marmot/Jade and Tuck/Robin! Separate trip reports for the latter.

These lakes got a lot of attention in recent years, and even on a Tuesday, all lakes were filled to capacity with backpackers. Trailhead parking is generally fine on weekdays, sharing with the Cathedral Rock / PCT trailhead. The road is rough, but we made it fine in a sedan.

A late start meant we pushed through the humid heat, with Hyas Lake providing little wind. A couple very large shaded sites line the sun-drenched shoreline. The mosquitoes and deer flies begin to swarm around 4000', and only get worse the higher you climb. If you have a headnet -- as ridiculous as they look -- absolutely bring it. Picaridin helped repel about half of the bites, but they're persistent.

Past the junction for Tuck/Robin, and after a few steps on the PCT, we turned into the Marmot Lake trail. You'll pass through meadows on relatively flat ground, crossing a large stream, making for a good water refill. You'll climb a ridge as you enter the forest, only to deceptively descend again less than half a mile after. Gradually climb as you follow the ridge up, until you reach the junction of Clarice and Marmot Lakes.

We decided to check out Clarice, and the trail was severely overgrown. I did a little bushwacking to clear some of the young alders growing into the trail. The trail gets difficult to follow as you reach the top, marked by a few cairns on top of fallen logs. The lake is decently sized, but we didn't push in to see if there were any campsites. 

Turning back, and moving onto the Marmot Lake trail, its also overgrown. A short climb reaches the lake. There is a toilet with a green nylon privacy shelter, but toilet paper was EVERYWHERE. Not just around the toilet seat, but on the trails in any direction for a good 20 paces. C'mon people.

There are very few sites at Marmot relative to the size of the lake, with a steep shoreline making flat camp surfaces scarce. We saw maybe 8-10 sites dispersed along the entire shoreline. 

Follow the narrow trail on the south shore for Jade Lake, where a talus covers a creek flowing into Marmot. The trail gets hard to follow here, so pay attention to the cairns. The slope is very steep and unstable, so give folks behind you a couple feet to avoid rocks tumbling below. Keep climbing until you reach the top of the pass, where a meadow breaks out.

We saw two marmots here, scurrying under rocks hiding from the late afternoon sun. Obviously, I had to pose for one with my Marmot jacket on, and Marmot Lake in the distance. We passed by a small pond, and the larger No Name Lake for some Mt Rainier-esque meadows. There are 2-3 sites at the southern end of No Name Lake, which also overlook Jade Lake.

Jade is incredibly popular -- even given the road, trail length, and rugged boothpath -- because its a glacial lake with that milky blue water. About half the folks I saw had large DSLR cameras hanging from their neck. It also was a jarring surprise when I arrived, to see:

  • a discarded peach on the side of the trail
  • a drone hovering above a camp
  • a speaker playing music at another camp
  • toilet paper, again
  • a bear hang so low I could kick the bag
  • folks disregarding signs indicating footpaths were closed for restoration

This is a fragile alpine meadow, and normalizing this behavior means other folks will normalize it at other lakes. Wouldn't be surprised if this becomes another Blanca situation by the end of summer.

We saw at least 12-14 groups camped, with more probably perched away from the water, and more than the number of sites available. Weekends would probably be packed. Get cozy with your neighbors, you'll likely have traffic through your camp. There are a number of paths that people go down, only to find a dead end -- these are probably poop trails, and each footstep prevents the meadows from regrowing. 

Mosquitoes were terrible, and a number of folks had headnets on. They're particularly pervasive after 6pm. We watched sunset at a creek draining into Jade, and was kept company by three frogs that didn't feel the need to defend us from bugs :(

There is a faint trail on the snow climbing up to Pea Soup Lake. It will melt out later in the year, but it is a notably dangerous hike when the snowpack is fragile. 

tl;dr -- lake is pretty, and is like other glacial lakes in the Cascades. Be prepared for a rugged, loose trail; lots of people; and an absurd amount of mosquitoes.

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Road into the trailhead is the washboard bumpy dirt ride that I remember, complete with creek crossing that I think went up a foot on the wheels, was happy to be in a high clearance vehicle.  Were a few open spots in each big area of parking on a Wednesday early afternoon. Hiked up to Marmot lake on Wednesday.  Did a side trip to Lake Clarice.  It is more of an alpine marsh than alpine lake, there were so many green plants growing in the lake that I didn't think it was worth the almost mile side trip off the trail to Marmot.  Marmot Lake was beautiful!  Trail was in very good condition on Deception pass to the intersection with the PCT, even saw some park rangers bringing lumbar up on horses to work the bridge by Little Hyas (although bridge did not seem in urgent need of work to me).  There were a number of blowdowns after intersection with PCT up to Marmot, nothing impassable but annoying as it got later and I got more tired.  Most of the wildflowers I saw were also above intersection of Deception pass and PCT and Marmot Lake, otherwise was mostly old growth forest.  Few patches of snow up near Marmot, and a few patches between Marmot and Jade, one that I walked around on the heather because it looked like it was melting out underneath and I didn't want to plunge through; nothing that needed microspikes or anything like that.  Only saw 2 other groups at Marmot.  Mosquitoes were bad until after dark and was glad to have my hat with bug net along. Although I had hiket up in a tank top and shorts it got a little chilly overnight being at 4900 feet and I was glad I had packed layers.  Thursday woke up early and did a "day hike" to No Name/Jade Lake; Jake lake was also absolutely gorgeous!  My trail description had said it was a mile to Jade lake, which it may be from the far edge of Marmot but was more like 2 miles from where I camped and was a 700 foot climb over the scree field.  Carions were pretty easy to follow and absolutely worth the side trip!  Decided to take the long way down and did 5 miles of the PCT between Cathedral Rock and Deception pass.  Also lots of blowdowns on that, even more than the trail to Marmot; I lost the trail at one point and wandered into someone's campsite, and was glad to have GPS on my phone to find my way back on the trail.  The higher big creek crossing on that part of the PCT was fine.  The lower one was a gushing torrent of water with a very small trunk to balance on.  My dog ended up getting swept up in the current, thank you to the PCT trail angel that happened to be crossing going the other way and jumped in to help my pup and then carried him to the other side; I never even got your name but you are my hero!  So that creek crossing was fine for a person, treking poles definitely helped balance on the skinny log crossing, but take care if you have a furry friend along.  The mosquitoes were also terrible after the lower big creek crossing and intersection with Cathedral Rock trail, I saw more than one person hiking with the mesh net on their face and in extra layers despite the heat just for the bug protection. Trail was in very good shape once I got off the PCT and onto Cathedral Rock trail.  Spent the 2nd night by Squaw Lake.  The mosquitoes were even worse here than at Marmot, but it was a very pretty spot to camp and lounged by lake in the morning enjoying the view.  Squad Lake was busier than Marmot, as one might expect closer to the trailhead, and also saw some trailworkers with all their tools in camp.  Only saw a few groups as I went down to the trailhead but parking lot was packed with cars lined up way down the road, as one might expect Friday early afternoon.  If I had it to do over I would do it as an in and out to Marmot and Jade Lake, the PCT had some nice views but it was too many miles in one day for me.

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Got to the Deception Pass/Tucquala Meadows trailhead around 9:00 PM on Friday night, with the intention of camping at Hyas Lake that night and Marmot Lake on Saturday night, with a day trip to Jade Lake. Driving in on that dirt road in was rough; lots of potholes and you do have to drive through a pretty deep creek, which you CAN get through with a lower-clearance vehicle (I mean, we did!), but I would be slow and careful.

When we got to the dirt parking lot, it was practically full; we had to be a little clever in how we parked our car to get a spot! Took about an hour and a half of walking along very flat trail for us to get to Hyas and to find a campsite. There are plenty along the lake, and we found several after passing many an occupied site on lower half of the lake. The mosquitoes are pretty ruthless around this trail, and you would miserable if you didn't bring bug spray. Bring bug spray, and be prepared to use it liberally!

Early Saturday morning, we packed up camp and were back on trail by 7:30 AM. We passed very few people on our way to Marmot. The trail can be steep ascending at times, but with a big section where you're slowly descending. There are some muddy spots and stream crossings that can be annoying if you don't have waterproof footwear, and many fallen trees to climb over/under. Some places are a little overgrown. There are some minor, small snowfields that no one should really have issues with. All that aside, the trail to Marmot is easy to follow.

We saw a junction to either Marmot or Lake Clarice, and decided to check out Lake Clarice before we got to Marmot. It was a nice side-trip; it's about 3/4 of a mile to get there of mildly declining, somewhat overgrown trail. There wasn't anywhere we could see to camp, but it was a pretty lake! It took us about an hour for this detour.

As we got closer to Marmot in the late morning, we passed many more people leaving camp. Although it was pretty crowded, we had plenty of spots to choose from when we got to Marmot because we got there early, and there are a lot of sites. It took us about 5 hours to get from Hyas to Marmot, including our detour to Clarice.

We set up camp and set out for Jade Lake. The "trail" isn't always clear, but you just keep heading south, hugging along Marmot until the trail disappears, and then you start following the cairns. This part of the hike was steep. There's a lot of boulder-field navigation, and at one point you're basically scaling a waterfall. Be ready to use your hands! Still, although Marmot is beautiful, Jade is something else. The glacial water is an incredible color that I've never seen before in nature. We decided to jump in and wow that water is really cold! We saw some camps set up around Jade, but I personally would have had a difficult time navigating on all of those steep and rocky areas with my entire pack.

After heading back to camp (poles were helpful on the way down) and staying at Marmot overnight, we packed up and headed out from camp around 9:00 AM Sunday morning. Lots of people were headed out around the same time. The uphill on the descent was a little rough because there's very little tree cover. Got back to the trailhead almost exactly 4.5 hours later. On our way out, we saw many cars parked on the side of the road, so it must have been pretty crowded on Saturday!

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To get to lake Clarice you take the deception Pass Trail and turn off to the lake Clarice trail which will take you to Marmot, Jade, and Clarice lakes. About half a mile before you reach Marmot lake the trail splits and you can go straight to go to Lake Clarice or left to go to Marmot lake. My friend and I spent the night at marmot lake and on our way back took the little side trail up to Lake Clarice which added about 1.75 miles and took about 40 minutes. The lake is beautiful as a side trip but there are no camping spots and the trail is pretty overgrown. If I had seen lake Clarice before spending the night at Marmot lake it probably would've been a bit more spectacular but Marmot is clearly the more spectacular of the two. One thing I will say is that Marmot lake tends to get crowded where as there was not one other person at like Clarice. All in all it's a nice little side trip if you're staying at marmot lake.

Deception Creek, Lake Clarice — Aug. 4, 2016

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My very first backpacking hike was quite an adventure. I'm 36 male, in reasonable shape (generaly run 6 miles/day), I have to say this was one of the most if not the most challenging endeavors I have ever been on. I've always had this "romantic" idea of backpacking through the mountains, little did I know what a reality check I was in for. I read about Jade Lake the week before as it was listed as one of the most beautiful places in Washington. I live in Austin,tx but stay in Seattle for the summers so I felt compelled to take advantage. Off to REI, 25L back pack, 1 man tent, sleeping bag, compass, map(a must) and a new pair of running shoes I was ready to go. I had a hard time finding the deception creek trail head. I searched the net and couldn't find an address to "navigate" to. I'm a total newbie, quite confused by it all and eager to start, I got to Deception Falls off of HWY 2, parked and got to hiking. This was 1pm thursday. I hiked South along the creek up the hill about 1/2 mile and came upon the Deception Creek trail head. The first 5 or so miles of the trail were well maintained. Had some decent inclines and some impressive views of the river. The first intersection is at Tonga Ridge trail. This is roughly half way point to deception pass. Took about 3 hours. Good place to camp. I pushed ahead still thinking I could make Marmot lake that day. Right after the tonga intersection you have to cross deception creek. This was the first confusing part, there was no bridge and looked like a couple of different potential crossing spots. I chose to get my shoes wet and plowed ahead. Almost immediately after there is another large creek crossing. All in all this held me up for at least an hour as I plowed through brush and water. I figured at some point I'd come to a trail, which I did. I came upon a sign that said "Footlong" and "ford" neither said anything about "deception" Maybe this is why it's called deception? At this point dusk was approaching and I looked at my provisions of 2- 3oz bags of jerkey and 2 small apples, shit got real. Never the less I figured I had 20 days of fat on my body so I kept going. The next 2.5 miles seemed like an endless uphill as the trail took me farther away from the river. This was the moment when I realised I wasn't quite as tough as I thought. Hiking up this steep incline put me in a zombie-like state where all I could think about was beer and a cheeseburger. I really started to contemplate my food situation as well. From my hasty research on this hike everything I read "was plan for 3 days round trip." My jerky was 12 pieces/bag -.25oz nuggets. I figured I should not eat as long as possible and when I needed to eat limited myself to 1/4 oz per hour(17calories). Around this time I about crested the endless incline to come to the intersection of deception lakes trail. I crossed several small hill side creeks none of which were listed on the map. The trail intersections are really the big marker of "hey heading in the right direction jackass". What really came to a surprise to me was how long it took to get anywhere. Being a former collegiate runner I think of CC miles in 5-8min pace. What I started to realise was my hiking pace was probably closer to 25-30min per mile. Fortunately at this time I was on the decent to deception pass. This part of the trail got quite confusing as well as there were several trees down blocking the trail. "No biggie" as long as the tree fell perpendicular to the trail, but think about a 100-150ft tree falling on the trail in the direction it's going, it could literally cover 100ft of trail. I definitely got off the trail again because of this. Getting down to the valley and creek was nice but the bugs were out in full force. I had to soak myself in "off" to keep them at bay. Just before deception pass again the trail gets really confusing, i got off again and marched through marsh and all sorts of stuff I'd prefer not to be in. Slightly concerned, I fortunately heard some people in the distance to my left and was able to find the trail again. I met a couple just after "deception pass" (i didn't actually see it cause i wondered past it trying to find my way). They were setting up camp, and we chatted a minute. They confirmed I was heading in the right direction. The mosquitos were intense, difficult to even talk. The couple pointed me towards clarice trail to lake marmot. I thought they were crazy for setting up camp just above the marsh amongst the bugs and I was right, about 15-20 minutes up clarice trail there was a camping spot, i figured I'd better stop-about 9pm. The bugs were still bad but at least 50% better. I set up a tent for the first time. Jumped in a creek to rinse off then tried to get comfortable(the ground is hard without a matress or pillow). I ate my first apple, burned one and crashed out. Crashed out for a few hours, various limbs fell asleep as i tossed and turned every 10 mins. I was basically awake at 3am. Cat napped until six then put on my wet shorts, wet shoes and started heading to marmot lake. The first few miles of clarice trail were pretty managable, nice views of the mountains. Lots of low lying brush that was wet with morning dew. The ascent to Marmot Lake was pretty intense with some rock climbing. I figured this out but look for stacks of small rocks on top of boulders to direct you. I arrived at Marmot around 8-8:30am. Marmot lake is really an amazing place, bugs were intense, but because I was starving i didn't hang around and pushed through. Keep the lake to the right of you. The trail really starts to deteriorate. The first rock slide I reached I wasn't sure if it was the one to climb to jade lake. Luckily at this time I ran into another hiker who was coming from Jade Lake. He pointed me in the right direction. There is an unmistakeable rock slide (2nd one)that you have to ascend. Again keeping an eye out for the small stacks of rocks to guide you. There are parts of a trail on the left. Just try to keep left as much as possible on your way up. It's pretty brutal. Once you crest you kind of come into heaven on earth. Just a meadow of flowers and plants. No man lake on the left, then in the distance the flourescent blue lake. I had forgotten my hunger when I saw Jade Lake, really can't describe it. It's just a place you want to be, far from all the BS of the world. I stopped thinking about emails, payrolls etc... It was roughly 10am, weather was perfect, clear sun cool air. I found a good place to lay out, used my pack as a pillow and took in the best scenery I've ever seen. Lots of bugs but they didn't bother me, I became one with the world and just laid there motionless for a couple hours. I'm not religious but this place made me feel like I was in the presence of something more. A perfect harmony exists. All to be disrupted by a group with a handful of teenagers eager to hear their yells echo and do cannon balls into the water. Perfect serenity destroyed.. To each their own I suppose. So i got up moved around got into the freezing water chest high. I convinced myself to drink the water(i'm not sick). At around 12pm i started to think how nice that beer and cheeseburger would be. I told myself I'd come back and be better prepared for an extended stay. I made it back to the decpetion creek trail head at 7:40pm. I jogged where I could. And pretty much set record time(at least in my mind) Super rough on the knees and quads but I made it before dark with 2 peices of jerky to spare. Found some mexican joint in Gold Bar, ordered beef fajitas, Mexican food just doesn't compare up here but it tasted damn good after the previous 32 hours. 4 pints of pacifico and fried ice cream to top it off. Crashed in my truck and got back to seattle about 7am. I'm hooked planning my next hike now. Cheers RonjoV
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2 nights at Tuck and Robin Lakes followed by 2 nights at Marmot and Jade lakes. Perfect weather except for everpresent mosquitoes. Trail to Tuck Lake is a bit of a scramble at times, but perfectly doable. We camped on the ridge with a stunning view of Mt. Daniel. Goats were watching us and very interested in our urine. They did not menace, they just watched and waited. Trail to Robin Lakes was snow free and even more of a scramble. Be sure to follow the cairns. The lakes are specacular! Partially covered with snow which made a great contrast to the rocks and meadows. Very worth seeing. Then 2 nights at Marmot Lake, a lovely tranquil camp spot right by the lake. We encountered a WTA youth work party clearing brush and a few blowdowns. The brush clearing was needed, thanks WTA! We day hiked to Jade Lake. Quite possibly the most BEAUTIFUL lake I have seen. Sparkling turquoise water, perfect alpine meadows, Mt. Daniels snowy peaks. The trail up climbs over rocks and a few melting snow fields. It never felt dangerous. VERY worth the effort. Side trip to Lake Clarice was not worth it. The trail is easy enough, but disappears shortly before the lake and you are left to find your own way. The lake is not as nice as Marmot and we did not see any camping sites. The 12 mile gravel road in from Salmon La Sac is very rough. Many potholes, ruts, rocks and fords Scatter Creek. I recommend high clearance vehicles only, although we saw low clearance cars that made it somehow. Robin Lakes and Jade Lake are definitely worth putting on your list of spots to visit.