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Carne Mountain High Route — Friday, Jul. 26, 2013

Central Cascades > Entiat Mountains/Lake Chelan
Our photo. Can you tell me what are these mountains?
We arrived at 11:30am on a gorgeous day after a long 16 miles in gravel and many holes and rolling stones (I always like the Beatles better). The parking lot was almost full (13 cars) and were lucky in taking the last slot. My daughter and I agree that we had great pains and very modest gains. The trail was very good, no ice or snow, bugs were not bad but used some repellents. There were 3-4 trees down without any problems. There is only one water stream before hitting the basin (which has a stream). My problem was that I encountered a very steep trail (average 1,000ft/mile) without breeze, severe sun, and in the end we were not terribly rewarded (views and ambiance modestly OK). Our point is that the rating/difficult of Romano's Central Cascade is 5/4 (scales of 1-5). Our scores are 2/5. It took me (an active man of 61 y.o.) 4 hours and my daughter (active 30 y.o.) 3 through the trail end. It was hard for me but I proudly did it. This trail is supposed to be 8 miles round trip and 3 miles from the TH to the basin. My Topo GPS readings were 3.56 miles from TH to basin and a round trip of 9.41 miles. As to elevation and its gain are consistent with 3,600 ft and 7092 ft, respectively. Finally, we were the ONLY ones on that trail. Where were the other people from those 12 cars? They probably went to the Spider Meadow/Phelps Basin and I hope they had a better trail than the Carne Mountain. Carne is meat in several languages, and I lost a lot of carne, which was good but.....
Our photo. Trail in the meadows.
Our photo.
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That looks like Buck Mountain in your first photo.

Also, FYI: GPS mileage is usually off. It usually over states the distance.

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rbuzby on Jul 27, 2013 03:20 PM

Thank you for your info.
Your second comment is unreasonable. I cannot recall previous mileage disagreements between my Topo GPS and other info from books or maps. Thus...

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samsalmon on Jul 27, 2013 04:32 PM

I'm sorry to be the first one to tell you that GPS mileages are often wrong. It's a well known phenomenon that makes sense once you understand why it happens. Feel free to google it and see for yourself. It's pretty basic stuff.

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rbuzby on Jul 27, 2013 06:15 PM

Thank you very much for responding my first comment.

After reading your second post I went back to my pathway to Carne Mountain and noticed that there has been a wide zigzag pathway along and across the "real" trail. Interestingly, in other trails I also noticed that those zigzags but they were significantly much smaller amplitudes compared to the one in the Carne Mountain trail. Perhaps the high steepness of the trail could be the issue because of triangulation??? And I guessed that a Topo Garmin eTrex 30 was supposed to be more accurate.

I am not sure what is going on here but I will try to get some information.
On the other hand, most people these days use a GPS and my statement may be useful.

Thank you very much indeed :).

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samsalmon on Jul 27, 2013 06:15 PM

Return in the Fall when all of those Larch trees turn a golden color and then rate the hike. Seriously - SPLENDID

http://www.wta.org/[…]/tripreport-2007101308

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"Just a hiker" on Jul 27, 2013 04:09 PM

I agree completely with the comments on GPS unreliability, some areas it seems very accurate, some areas pretty poor. Always best to have a plot on USGS or something similar.

Also agree completely with the note about fall larch color, the Carne Basin just glows with golden light when you get the timing right.

I would point out that what you did is just the hike up Carne Mtn, not the Carne High Route. Hiking up Carne Mtn is actually just the start of the High Route. The Route departs northwards from the summit ridge of Carne, traversing along the west flank of Mt Maude's extended south ridge. After a moderately strenuous "traverse", the Route reaches Leroy Basin, beneath Seven Fingered Jack Mtn, then descends the Leroy Basin trail to the valley bottom, returning back to the cars on the Phelps Creek trail. The round trip is about 12.5 miles and over 5000' total gain and loss in elevation. Like the Carne Basin, it is an incredibly beautiful color show in the fall.

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smdk on Jul 28, 2013 03:49 PM