Ignore april 4th report, choose wrong month!
Started up the trail with a few friends at 8am. Temp was below 40 at the TH despite sunny skies and warm temps in town. The trail out to both Green Lakes is in good shape. We saw bunches of families and dogs enjoying this part of the trail. There's one minor down tree and the bridges are in good shape. Past Upper Green Lake the trail is snow free to the Echo Lake - Lost & Quinn Lakes fork. There are a couple of downs but they can be negotiated fairly easily. The Greenwater River is flowing deep and fast. The lakes are full and sparkling green. The ducks put on a nice show landing on the lakes. Not far past the intersection the Echo Lake trail has patchy snow. After a half mile past the fork the snow cover gets solid. It starts off thin enough so route finding is OK. About a mile past the fork (4 miles from TH) the snow is deeper and softer. Huge, deep melt holes began to appear. After one or two plunges in we figured it wasn't going to get any better if we kept going. I checked the slopes above the trail. They were mostly green. I think they were melting faster because they get more sun and warm air. That eliminated the worry of warm wet avalanches from above. And returning when the day was warming the snow probably meant things would get worse. So we turned around about 3 miles from Echo Lake. We found a big log to sit on for a lunch break. There was some sun, snow and the sound of the river. We needed our gloves, hats, and vests on the snow and during lunch. The breeze off the snow was cold! On the way back we decided to explore the Lost Lake fork. We got around the corner and found patchy snow which quickly became solid cover steeply slopes way down the hill. Not fun so we called it a day and headed back. Pretty quickly the warm spring air arrived and all the layers went into our packs. A few trilliums are beginning to show fresh blooms. No bugs yet. If it stays warm the Echo and Lost Lake trails may melt out in June.
On the way back we notice bones along the trail and a large mat of deer-colored fur on the ground. Seems like a National Geographic moment had happened there.

We went for a Sunday drive and ended up on FR 70.
The road is clear all the way up to the Greenwater Lakes trailhead now.

The beginning of the trail had a few inches of old snow then it was clear. We only hiked in about half a mile then went back to driving.
We didn't get far on 7030 or 72 due to snow.

Started up the trail with a few friends at 8am. Temp was below 40 at the TH despite sunny skies and warm temps in town. The trail out to both Green Lakes is in good shape. We saw bunches of families and dogs enjoying this part of the trail. There's one minor down tree and the bridges are in good shape. Past Upper Green Lake the trail is snow free to the Echo Lake - Lost & Quinn Lakes fork. There are a couple of downs but they can be negotiated fairly easily. The Greenwater River is flowing deep and fast. The lakes are full and sparkling green. The ducks put on a nice show landing on the lakes. Not far past the intersection the Echo Lake trail has patchy snow. After a half mile past the fork the snow cover gets solid. It starts off thin enough so route finding is OK. About a mile past the fork (4 miles from TH) the snow is deeper and softer. Huge, deep melt holes began to appear. After one or two plunges in we figured it wasn't going to get any better if we kept going. I checked the slopes above the trail. They were mostly green. I think they were melting faster because they get more sun and warm air. That eliminated the worry of warm wet avalanches from above. And returning when the day was warming the snow probably meant things would get worse. So we turned around about 3 miles from Echo Lake. We found a big log to sit on for a lunch break. There was some sun, snow and the sound of the river. We needed our gloves, hats, and vests on the snow and during lunch. The breeze off the snow was cold! On the way back we decided to explore the Lost Lake fork. We got around the corner and found patchy snow which quickly became solid cover steeply slopes way down the hill. Not fun so we called it a day and headed back. Pretty quickly the warm spring air arrived and all the layers went into our packs. A few trilliums are beginning to show fresh blooms. No bugs yet. If it stays warm the Echo and Lost Lake trails may melt out in June.
On the way back we notice bones along the trail and a large mat of deer-colored fur on the ground. Seems like a National Geographic moment had happened there.

tried to get up here today but the road about 7 miles up forest road 70 is deep in snow. some snowmobilers said they thought another three months before easy access. Beautiful drive, however.